The totally unnecessary Iran War!

(13-03-2026 18:41 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Christ they still have over 300 in service with us military

it was designed and built in the 50s and some of the ones are from the 60s

you would thought with the money the US miltary have they would have updated the fleet

even the poor RAF in comparison got rid of the victor and VC10s for refueling in the 90s and 2013 respectivily

Maybe America is nothing more than a glorified paper tiger. I.e. on paper America has the most powerful military in the world, however, when it has to fight a foe that fights intelligently they are hopeless.

The KC-135R that managed to land in Tel Aviv. There's a good sized chunk of the Vertical Stabiliser missing.



Possible causes, neither of which are related to the age of the Aircraft so we can forget that nonsense.

1. 1 Aircraft refuelling the other & a collision. Possible but highly unlikely as only a very small number of these Tankers can actually receive fuel. The 2 Aircraft involved have both been identified as standard KC-135Rs, not the very rare KC-135RT which can be refuelled in flight.

2. Collision. Well...the photo pretty much confirms that, the question is why 2 Tankers would be on the same refuelling track at the same time. It's probably safe to assume they were running dark so either one of them was flown somewhere it shouldn't have been, or it was directed there by someone who is about to have a career-ending arse kicking.

Looking at the damage to that Stabiliser, I'd guess it's sliced through either a wing or the fuselage of the other Plane.

BBC reports that 1,000's of US Marine's are being sent to the Gulf.

As she was an Escort for years, Melania Trump has volunteered to escort ships through the Strait of Whoremuz.

(13-03-2026 22:06 )Charlemagne Wrote:  BBC reports that 1,000's of US Marine's are being sent to the Gulf.

But i Thought Donald said the war was won?

The longer this war goe on the more im convinced he has no idea, no plan and that Bibi is the one really calling the shots.

Israel already on record saying they want to lay the ground work for regime change in Iran. That's not going to be quick.

(14-03-2026 00:29 )coolguy4u Wrote:  

(13-03-2026 22:06 )Charlemagne Wrote:  BBC reports that 1,000's of US Marine's are being sent to the Gulf.

But i Thought Donald said the war was won?

The longer this war goe on the more im convinced he has no idea, no plan and that Bibi is the one really calling the shots.

Israel already on record saying they want to lay the ground work for regime change in Iran. That's not going to be quick.

I am not convinced that Bibi has thought this through as well. Iran are doing a good job of exhausting Israel’s air defence capabilities and a lot of Iranian drones and missiles are getting through to their targets in Israel. When Israel runs out of ammunition to defend itself, Iran can systematically take out each and every Israeli military airbase and, therefore, neutralise the Israeli air force. At that point Israel loses the capability to attack Iran.

Israel cant run out of ammo because the americans will resupply them

Interesting… A friend just returned from a 3-day conference attended by lots of delegates from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States. Virtually to a man, they were all pro-Trump, pro-war and anti-Iran. That their countries are the ones paying the price was irrelevant. When it comes right down to it, their respect for a macho strongman “doer” outweighs any sense of grievance for being on the frontline of a war they never started. It also upends the CNN/BBC refrain that this will somehow cost America all its alliances in the Middle East.

(14-03-2026 10:20 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Israel cant run out of ammo because the americans will resupply them

But, for instance, America can only produce 7 patriot interceptor missiles per month. Once everyone has fired all their reserve stocks of these missiles, only 7 new missiles will be available each month (or 1 and bit missiles per week). Who do you think will America prioritise in who gets them? Further, it is exceptionally difficult to ramp up production of the missiles because it is very expensive, America doesn’t have the manufacturing base to ramp up production (they don’t have the factory capacity and the skilled workers to make them), and China has chocked off the supply of rare earth minerals to America for armaments manufacturing.

another KC135 Refuellers have been damaged at prince sultan air base in saudi arabia hours after a russian sat passed by hmmm wonder who can be passing them info

And hmmm i wonder why most Sunni gulf states might not like Shia led iran might like them gone but in the end a 1 powerful state in the region to counterbalance israel and netyenhu might be signing there own deaths